114 responses so far ↓

• 1 Ken Kutagari // Jul 24, 2008 at 1:45 pm

  Your fanboy antics aren’t amusing. No one cares fool. The only thing you’re telling the world is that you’re crying because that stupid FF13 game went to the green team. Cry moar pl0x.

  And FYI, I have all consoles.

• 2 Shane // Jul 24, 2008 at 1:46 pm

  No

• 3 Mornelithe // Jul 24, 2008 at 1:55 pm

  You don’t see (or hear) of Sony buying Exclusivity for games.

  Morne

• 4 Snooby // Jul 24, 2008 at 2:02 pm

  No… I don’t think so. I won’t buy a PS3, not anymore.

  One 360 FF is enough, considering how big the game is. Too many other games to play, Gears 2, Fallout 3, Force Unleashed.

• 5 Fitzroy // Jul 24, 2008 at 2:36 pm

  haha terrible attempt to get more peeps interested in a ps3 aint gonna happen with much better consoles out there like the Xbox 360 for example

• 6 zeroyel // Jul 24, 2008 at 2:42 pm

  FF13 was built on the PS3 modified for the three 360 unlike many other games that were done the other way it going to be interesting to see how this change is going will it be all on one dics for the 360 will the graphic be up to par will all the content be right there. Before 360 fanboys sound off just remember Lost Odessey a five dics rpg that was well done but still packed on five disc and not that long. I thought we were out of the “please insert dics two” era.

• 7 Bravo // Jul 24, 2008 at 2:57 pm

  What’s an xbox 360?

• 8 Deadmeat // Jul 24, 2008 at 3:10 pm

  Absolutely not. Xbox 360 has more JRPGs than PS3 does at this point.

• 9 najeem // Jul 24, 2008 at 3:22 pm

  nope

• 10 john // Jul 24, 2008 at 3:43 pm

  I own all 3 systems.. I will be getting the ps3 version though… I avoid using the 360 like a plague.. im on my 4th 360 so f/@k xbox.. after reading about how they took corners just to get system out quickly… my 360 purchases will be minimal

• 11 GC328 // Jul 24, 2008 at 3:45 pm

  Your article has bias written all over it. Come on man, accept the fact that more and more sony exclusive title coming to then xbox 360

• 12 Ramble // Jul 24, 2008 at 3:46 pm

  Pure speculation. I’m really not sure why you are even opening your pie hole. FFXIII will probably go multiplatform as well. Future games? Oh, give me a break. It’s coming up on the 360’s 3rd anniversary. 3 years of dominance. The Cell can number crunch better than the 360, but when will you guys get it through your thick head, that the graphics will never be better than the 360. The graphics capability just isn’t going to be any better. As far as the PS3 being a multimedia device, SONY is going up against a SOFTWARE giant…they’ll lose. The GAMES are on the 360. You fail on all accounts.

• 13 Da_ALC // Jul 24, 2008 at 4:42 pm

  Haha, Sony suckered you in you moron!

  Anybody with a brain has learned that the PS3 is a big pile of crap.
  And so are Sony.

• 14 Scoops // Jul 24, 2008 at 5:05 pm

  Its pretty obvious that any real FF fan will still get a PS3 for Versus.

  A lot of the posters on here seem to have missed the ‘fan’ part of the article.

  A lot of 360 owners will undoubtedly pick it up for their consoles but anyone who was going to buy a PS3 for FFXIII will still do so in order to get Versus.

• 15 Edge // Jul 24, 2008 at 5:07 pm

  Who cares which console is better. More people get the chance to play a game and you some how find a negative in that and think our fragile egos need to be consoled…

  This is the essense of fanboy.

• 16 Snooby // Jul 24, 2008 at 5:22 pm

  Without getting to fanboyish…
  I really don’t think switching disc swill be a big issue, especially for a game like FF. It is not like your switching for every scene or every game play. I haven’t even made it to the third dics on Oddessy yet so IMHO disc switching is no biggie. As for people with both systems stil gripping about being on “My fourth xbox” I have a had a launch box that hasn’t Red Ringed or died and neither has a majority of my friends (8/10 - 2 had with Red Rings ) I have had my Wii crash several times with errors and “unable to read dics” since day one.

• 17 Jay // Jul 24, 2008 at 5:24 pm

  There should be a website where all xboxers that say xbox will ALWAYS be the greatest can list their names so next year when games have even greater graphics than they do now, they can choke on their words just like the xbox will choke with its inferior processor. They haven’t even begun to produce enough games with graphics that i consider amazing.

  Next year will have games that output 1080p and thats when i will start to buy them. GTA IV looks like hell on my 52 lcd, but looks great on my friends 42 lcd of the same make and model.

  In microsoft years, 3rd anniversary might as well be a trip to assisted living. The future is too bright for xbox so it had better put on its cataract shades.

  And im not saying xbox 360 isnt cool. You guys did get games a year in advance and titles like dead rising. Im just saying that the day will come when those that havent bought either system will say, “I can clearly see that the ps3 has far better graphics and is a better buy for now and the future.” Probably less than 6 months from now.

  6 months does sound like a long time… if youre 4 years old.

  Microsoft is not a software giant. Its hot trash at best. How long has windows had to improve their platform? How is it that apple and linux (although smaller in numbers) have built far superior technology? Because microsoft makes money by tricking suckers into buying their half rate crap.

• 18 tgrass21 // Jul 24, 2008 at 5:41 pm

  PS3 needs more disc space compared to 360. MGS4 would take 25 gigs on a 360 compared to the 50 it took on PS3. It’s because the Cell processor has you all fooled. It’s amazing…for calculating but it’s just ok for game processing.

• 19 Con // Jul 24, 2008 at 5:56 pm

  Just addin to this i h8 final fantasy games, they are crap, but everyone who post discussions on this website is ps3 fanboy, 2 weeks ago they posted a discussion asking what this guy should do with his 360, it was a blatant attack against the xbox.

• 20 frazer369 // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  Reading this article and the posts all i can see is fanboyism, personally it doesent matter if you get it on eather system. I’m sure they will both be good, fact: The PS3 version of FFXII will sell more on the PS3, this is only if the exclusivity in japan remains. In case you never new butter FFXII is being released in japan exclusivly on PS3 and the rest of the world it will be multi platform. Due to japanise dislike to the american company anyway and the sales that currently have been recorded even if japan did go multi platform it wouldent count for much. Plus you have the ps3 faithful who i belive what this article is about who bought the ps3 to early in its life cycle for FFXII and more than likely will purchase their copy on the ps3 platform.

• 21 FF Fan // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:17 pm

  If PS3 gets an FF7 remake, the war is over! Simple.

• 22 360 // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:18 pm

  Hell I think I am going to sell my ps3 for an xbox because it just sound so much more reliable and has so much more to offer I meen I would make a list of all the reasons that the xbox 360 is the better then the Ps3 but it would take too long. Listen to what tgrass21 said that is just the start of reasons why the 360 is better. Well put tgrass21. The fan base on the 360 just seem some much more intelligent the the PS3 Fan base

• 23 Snooby // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:27 pm

  Of the post so far everyone is pretty pro 360 on here..

• 24 360 // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:33 pm

  man I tell you. The Xbox 360 fan base is convincing me every time I hear them bash the PS3 that I need to sell it off and get a 360. Man you guys rock.

• 25 PS3 ROCKS!!!!!! // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:47 pm

  Sony has Alot of Small developers in its pockets. Xbox only has Big developers. Frankly those Big Developers have the worst games..Example: EA games are the worst its seems as if they are staying in ps2 era. Second The Cell Proccessor IS the most powerful chip on the planet. Did they Bulid the worlds fastest Super computer and a television using the Xbox 360’s proccesor?…NO… Finally have you heard that they are buliding a wireless tv for the ps3?

• 26 Ramble // Jul 24, 2008 at 6:49 pm

  Oh - btw. Versus will most likely be multiplatform too.

  Square Enix just *at least* doubled their market going to the 360…they will probably do the same thing with versus.

• 27 Resolved // Jul 24, 2008 at 8:38 pm

  Ok, 1st off to all u who keep saying sony are goin to lose their exclusivity titles to the 360, may I remind u all about mass effect 2 (multiplatform) & bioshock, both of which especially bioshock were exclusive 360, this jumping to multiplatform is a 2 way thing, & who does any1 think this will help. Well i’ll tell u the consumer gets a fair deal, all they have to do is decide which they want, but the developers are gonna make almost double wot they wud on exclusivity. PS3 has more units sold by a mile than the 360 in japan, it outsold by a small number in europe, & despite it yr later release is only a few million units behind & has outsold the 360 in the 1st half of this yr using npd numbers. Despite that there’s a vast number of all 3 consoles out there so no deal a console maker can pay out cud match the income of goin multiplatform & this trend is set to grow, I’d hold tight b4 criticising sony, cus i can see some more big xbox titles jumping ship to get some more of the green stuff.

• 28 GC328 // Jul 24, 2008 at 8:53 pm

  Square Enix did what anyone would do. If there’s a chance to earn $$$, grab it. M$ opened their big fat wallet and Square Enix took a dive into it. If this strategy turns out to be a success, then M$ WILL open their wallet to other Sony Exclusive developers. And trust me, they will take the bait.

• 29 FF Fan // Jul 24, 2008 at 9:32 pm

  Tetsuya Nomura has loyalty towards Sony, he is the lead director of versus 13 and will not likely let it go to the 360, he didnt have much control over 13, but with versus 13, he has a lot more control!

• 30 kirin777 // Jul 24, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  Sorry xbox fanboys, Final Fantasy VII is in the remaking right now. Xbox fanboys are you regret that you talk like a 4 year old. PS3 don’t lose any exclusive, Microsoft pay hefty dollars to Sony and SquareEnix to get license to release FF on xbox, that’s why xbox get only FFXIII but no FF Versus XIII or any future FF games. So to all of you xbox fanboys sucker out there do your research first. And please when you talk about xbox exclusive, please please find new exclusive games to back xbox up. The only games you xbox fanboys are talking are Gears of War, Halo, Bioshock, Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden. Don’t forget that Bioshock is coming to PS3 and everything better than on xbox version so are you jealous now xbox fanboys. Gears of war sux, Halo stupid, Mass Effect kiss my a$%, Bioshock kinda dumb, Ninja Gaiden II boring as hell. Hit me back with new exclusive on xbox that will beat PS3 punks a%^ xbox fanboys. If you want more PS3 exclusive game let me know I got a list here about 65 games will not come to xbox.

• 31 graphical analyst // Jul 24, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  This will shut u fanboys up. Xbox360 was developed too quickly for a next gen console, hence the red ring problems. THE PS3 was in development for at least 5 years(blu ray and cell technology took most of dat timeframe up), so it is a quiet and efficient piece of equipment. Microsoft utilises the graphics power of d xbox better and has more developers in partnership. However the ps3 was built to be futureproof for 10 years and upcoming additions like Home and PlayTV look promising. But developers are still struggling with its hardware architecture. For all u fanboys out there: Its a TIE!! get over it.

• 32 grimmz357 // Jul 24, 2008 at 9:39 pm

  Ill bet the attach rate is higher for ff13 on ps3 more fans are used to buying it for ps, and what happens when a game is too big for 360’s dvd?

• 33 Scott Bowen // Jul 24, 2008 at 9:42 pm

  Ok I am confused, This is a PS3 site and the article is not bashing anything just brings up a point that as of now you will need a PS3 to play versus.

  Than you people are allowed to comment on here and all you comment on is My console is better than yours.
  OK I get it you where to poor to buy both I am sorry but really I liked my 360 just as I like my PS3 and really this pissing match seems more bitter than actual hate for the other console. I know get a job buy all the consoles and get over it.

  Now to the question. All games should be multi plat so the developers can recoup some of the staggering losses.

• 34 Ramble // Jul 24, 2008 at 10:20 pm

  Wow…FF Fan. You’re probably another one of those that said: NO! Devil May Cry 4 will never go to 360…NO! Final Fantasy XIII will never go to 360… The PS3 has lost their exclusive appeal - deal with it.

  So, yeah, good chance your wrong again. Your “buddy” (Tetsuya) is gonna break.

  $ONY’s worth only about a sixth of M$.

  What’s the difference between M$ fans and $ony fans? $ony fans are loyal to $ony. M$ is loyal to it’s fans.

  M$ made good on the promise…brought the 360 to the UK at the same time it brought it to the US.

  What did $ony do? SHAFTED the UK.

  Famous $ony quote: “The next gen doesn’t start until we start it”.

  COCKY and ARROGANT.

  …that’s who you sony fanbois support.

• 35 Knight // Jul 25, 2008 at 12:35 am

  XBOX 360 is frickin’ crap, doesn’t have s*** for games besides Gears of War, all their other stuff you can get it better on the PC. 360 games have a lot of tearing and I noticed it quite a bit in the new GoW 2. The graphics on the 360 doesn’t COMPARE to PS3 graphics, f*** they can’t even produce quality 1080p games. Microsoft is full of s*** and I wouldn’t doubt Micheal Bay for Microsoft purposely destroying the format war just to support their digital crap. If they cared about the fan, where the F*** is the Blu-ray player, they said they wanted to give people an option to own a hi-def player and they felt HD-DVD was going to win, now that they lost, they don’t give a rats ass.

  Now that FF XIII is coming out on 360, it screwed PS3 fans over for producing an inferior product just like GTA IV when developers complain about the limit of DVD capacity. Microsoft is f***ing up quality games just so they can get games released on their crapbox. Oh and it is a crap console, atleast 30% of XBOX 360s are defective, they spent over a billions dollars in repair, PS3 has under 5% defective rate, I own a 360 Elite and a defective 360 before that, I haven’t touch it for ages, this generation PS3 owns!!!

• 36 Art // Jul 25, 2008 at 12:48 am

  Not that I care what the author says even though the ffxiii releases are true. Mo point is how violently wicked xboxers are even after getting multi amount up the rear by the big green giant. First xbox, screw the consumer, just drop the whole system. 360, screw the consumer . I must admire how commited you all are on praising your system, now bring in another bad president, the economy still has room to fall.

• 37 dead // Jul 25, 2008 at 2:42 am

  lol, well at least im glad that the $ONY that i am loyal to gave me a reliable system compared to the fairly unreliable system that the loyal M$ gave to its fans.

  as for games, there are already enough good games for the ps3, if you want more, theyre coming.

• 38 lol // Jul 25, 2008 at 2:47 am

  Why don’t you just play in PC. It is on PC too. LMAO

  Xbox going have more then 4 discs.

• 39 ehutch // Jul 25, 2008 at 4:32 am

  ps3 is graphically superior than 360, get over it. it becomes more obvious with each passing release cycle. most developers now have a handle on the architecture as well. keep your 360 if it floats your boat, i am very happy with my ps3.

• 40 WhySoAngry? // Jul 25, 2008 at 4:47 am

  Seriously people. Calm down… Grow up… and then go play whichever console you bought. No one on the internet cares what you think! If you guys spent as much time playing your console as you spend bashing the other guys console, you’d be much happier and less bitter people!

  Wow, so the 360 has a bigger user base? who cares, it had a year head start. Plus developers had to figure out what they were doing.
  So, the PS3 has a better chip. People obviously still enjoy their 360s and it does the job.

  wow, was that so hard?

• 41 kirin777 // Jul 25, 2008 at 5:10 am

  All xbox fanboys shut the hell up, even I got a million dollar I still ain’t gonna buy damn stupid xbox. Yeah we’re Sony loyal no matter what. If you jealous that we got reliable system not like xbox keep going back and forth to the post office and employees working there are laughing at your stupis a$%. They said how come I don’t see PS3 being send back to fix but why only xbox??????????????? Stupid shoulda bought PS3 giggling back counter. How many time I have to tell you xbox fan boys, Sony don’t lose any exclusive stupid, MS paid hefty money to Sony and game developer to get games on their system dummy. Why you xbox fanboys not answering my question from last post. Stupid xbox fanboys, yeah I said you xbox fanboys are stupid, and PS3 is the winner not tie graphical analyst.

• 42 ehutch // Jul 25, 2008 at 6:25 am

  ps3 is graphically superior to the 360 so get over it. it becomes more obvious with each passing release cycle. most developers now have a handle on the architecture as well. keep your 360 if it floats your boat, i am very happy with my ps3. time will be the ultimate judge

• 43 COPYRIGHT // Jul 25, 2008 at 9:42 am

  Where have all the good Playstation 3 games gone…?

  XBOX 360 BABY, HA HA HA HA HA !

• 44 Con // Jul 25, 2008 at 12:12 pm

  Just lokking at some of the comments here and Knight has written a whole load of bull**** on this, “The graphics on the 360 doesn’t COMPARE to PS3 graphics” what the hell are you on, they have the same density of graphics, and this is where the ps3 loses out, ps3 spent 5 years in development, they chose Geforce to create a graphics card the graphics card as everyone said is meant to be a hell of alot better than the 360’s ATI graphics card and yet all the games which are on both platforms look exactly the same. They spent big $$$ for something which hasnt helped at all.

  Then you look at the Blu ray which can supposedly hold tons more memory then the xbox discs, however once again this technology isnt used so all that memory (if that memory exists) is put to waste. Another reason for this is that no game developing company is going to spend millions and millions of $$ to create a game using all the graphics and all the memory because its a waste.

• 45 FF Fan // Jul 25, 2008 at 12:27 pm

  Ramble, you scruffy twat, your probably some random chav fuck from the UK who doesnt have a fucking clue about gaming so go play your shitbox, I’ll be playing the console which is SUPERIOR and seems to be too much for you!

  M$

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=caVhBCsZqr0

• 46 Snooby // Jul 25, 2008 at 2:05 pm

  Do some research…

  First off the software used to create games can’t create games to use the full potential of the Broadband Cell Processor, because the software and game engines are created mostly for PC type (dual or Quad core) processors and not a one of a kind Broadband Cell processor which has 8 cores, 1 disabled, 1 for the system, 6 for developers. The software is not capable of taking advantage of the extra processors yet. This method processor break down itself demands a lot from the system to begin with hence Sony needed to beef things up in order to make things run. Bigger gas tank for cars with 12 valve engines.

  Secondly a key percentage of the available RAM usage is used for the OS background processes (Network, OS etc..). Now from day one the 360 was chock full of features that the PS3 did not have but with the last update, can now enjoy (in game dashboard etc..). The 360, using a PC processor and memory break down was optimized to use efficiently what was available to it using common PC game creation practices.

  Here is the kicker, because PS3 fans cried and demanded some the same features 360 user had to begin with, there is more of a load on the Cell Processor and RAM. Come on guys did you think in-game dash boards and background music magically worked. These features eat away at a limited amount of processing power. By adding new feature sets to a system you increase the amount of processes a processor will need to run. The last I checked, no one added more RAM or Processors to the PS3 with the last update.

  I’m happy you guys got some new features, but seriously, you got to know it will effect your systems. The level of games you see in the next year my be the limit of what a PS3 can and can not do.

  As for graphics…your only as good as your graphics engine…not your graphics processors. If you had a $800 GPU or a $200 GPU, the game will only look as good as the engine behind it.

  The only reason why FF would need to be on 4 or 5 disc is for the 1080i/p pre-rendered cut scenes, I’m pretty sure the game content will fit on one disk.

  All I ever hear about form PS3 fanboys is “failure rates and reliability”, guys, that was from launch units, seriously give it a rest. I understand because of the lack of games, you need to defend your expensive purchases.

• 47 Snooby // Jul 25, 2008 at 2:56 pm

  A little more sugar for your tea…

  As of latest PS3 update 32MB of your limited 256MB is dedicated solely for the XrossMediaBar..oouch…

• 48 PS3 KILLER // Jul 25, 2008 at 2:57 pm

  WAKE UP YOU ARROGANT SONY FANBOYS!

  Developers cant even get the games ready on time for your dumb system, and when they do they all come out crap!

  HAZE or LAIR not to forget ramdom button
  bashing Heavenly sword.

  T

• 49 Ramble // Jul 25, 2008 at 3:53 pm

  LOL@ FF_FAN…

  ROFL@FF_FAN!

  Hit a nerve did I? You are sooooo out of your league…and soooo wrong. I’m from the midwest in the US. I sat here and watched the UK get shafted. I consider those in the UK our brethen…but then, ..what did they do? …the loyal dogs STILL bought the PS3.

  I OWN A PS3!

  That’s right, you moron.

  However, my 360 has been dominating in EVERY aspect for almost 3 years!!! You just don’t get do you?

  Your character really shined through with your last comment…but, I understand your frustration. Sony lied to you…and you’ve been defending their lies on these blogs for so long, you can’t deal with it anymore.

  Those who can’t deal with the lies will continue to vent like your doing…or say things stupid like “PS3 is the superior machine!!!”. Superior and playing blu-rays, I’ll give you that. But it stops there.

  You want a *real* gaming experience? Get a 360. Learn about it…and then, only then - you’ll see.

  I bought 4 360 games at Blockbuster the other day for only $20 ($5 a piece). …the PS3 hasn’t been worth the $$$ all the way around.

• 50 Ramble // Jul 25, 2008 at 4:14 pm

  Snooby: glad you posted some of that. I hate reposting the same stuff.

  For the record

  I like my PS3.
  I HATE ps3fanbois…
  360 fanbois annoy me - but, wether they know what they are saying or not…their assessment is normally right.

  One can only hope that MS and SONY go all out again on the “next” iteration of gaming console. NOONE CAN ARGUE that this fierce competition has been AWESOME for us gamers!

• 51 Con // Jul 25, 2008 at 6:08 pm

  And now playstation is creating its own television, how pathetic, it just shows how desperate they are for more customers, the thing is all TV’s sold now all have built in freeview so why the hell would anyone use the ps3s tv software when they could just use there own televisions.

• 52 GC328 // Jul 25, 2008 at 7:37 pm

  Did any of you PS3 Fanbois hear the news today? PS3 Game Exec, Kaz Hirai said that he rather take a bullet in the head then to get an Xbox exclusive game port over to PS3. This just shows you how arrogant and cocky Sony Execs are. Thats just to bad for all you fanbois. No games like Halo or Gears of War on PS3.

• 53 Ramble // Jul 25, 2008 at 8:08 pm

  Except, ofcourse, Sony Execs are liars.

  Do you have a link on that GC?

• 54 Ramble // Jul 25, 2008 at 8:11 pm

  Nevermind…I found it.

  http://kotaku.com/5028976/xbox-360-exclusive-or-bullet-to-the-head-kaz-picks-bullet-to-the-head

  At least one of the references

• 55 kirin777 // Jul 25, 2008 at 11:22 pm

  you xbox fanboys all so stupid when come to arguing about games and system. XBOX FANBOYS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUOOOOOOOPID

• 56 Knight // Jul 25, 2008 at 11:27 pm

  @CON
  GTA IV, Devil May Cry 4, DiRT, Elder’s Scroll, Virtua Tennis 3 are games that look better on PS3. Less pop ups, smoother frame rates, better digitized pictures… of course there are games on the 360 that looks better then the PS3.

  The viewing of the distance on PS3 games does a better job then the 360. There are less tearing and insane amount of things going on without any slow downs. Developers are only tapping at most 40% of the power of the PS3, on the 360 side is 99% according to Epic games (makers of Gears of War). While games on the PS3 are constantly looking better and better thanks to the combination of the cell processor and graphics card. Games are not going to get better then Gears of War on the 360. And YES I know that 360 has a slightly better graphics card but this is where the cell comes in on the PS3 side which more then makes up for that.

  As for Kaz taking a bullet to his head for not grabbing any 360 exclusives is exagerrated, he simply just said he wasn’t interested in any exclusives from 360 but the interviewer kept forcing him to say something and put the bullet upon him.

• 57 FF Fan // Jul 26, 2008 at 3:15 pm

  ^^ well what was he supposed to say? Oh yes, we want Halo, WTF? Good man, he didnt fall for the bait!

  Oh and 360 is kicking PS3 ass is it? Really?

  http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39453&end=39649

  Umm no, I believe the 360 is starting to get its ass kicked!

• 58 Ramble // Jul 26, 2008 at 4:22 pm

  Well, at this point in the game, the PS3 *should* be kicking the 360’s ass.

  That most recent graph shows that the 360 is actually selling more (7/20/08)

  PS3 has a looong way to go…

  http://www.nexgenwars.com/

  KNIGHT - stop filling this board with nonsense. Do you have both systems? Have you even PLAYED the games that you speak of above on both systems??? If you have, then you’d realize just how irrelevant those differences are…geezsh.

  The PS3 and 360 have practically the same gaming potential. The PS3 will NEVER surpass the 360 like you’re dreaming, KNIGHT. They’ve had almost 2 solid years now, and are just now on par with the 360.

  And…for the 360 fans…what feature would have made you a “true PS3 believer” if SONY would have kept the specs the way they published them originally?

  http://digitalbattle.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/ps3liebackend.jpg

  *multi-teraflop or 1 tflop CPU performance
  *a Graphics Synthesizer 3 or Visualizer GPU with tons of bandwidth, fillrate
  *1000x the power of PS2, if not at least 100x
  *output of 120fps for some games
  *tapping into other CELLs across the internet for more realtime performance
  *dual HDMI video output

  I’d have to say the dual HDMI would have been my fall. I hate playing split screen…using ONE PS3 to play a single game across two TV/monitors would have been awesome.

• 59 Snooby // Jul 26, 2008 at 4:32 pm

  Thanx Knight for backing up my point.

  There isn’t a engine or software package on the planet right now that will utililze the entire Broadband cell processor. The unreal engine can utilize all the processing power available on the 360 while on the PS3 no one can, and in some cases, developers can only utilize 10%. It is like having a chainsaw to cut a birthday cake.

  read up on the cell and the know that this is the most challenging environment to program in. Sony in their arrogance believed everyone in the industry would use their new programming environment but developers found they had to re teach their developement teams and the tech support from Sony was not there (insufficient support and language barriers issues).

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)

• 60 John // Jul 26, 2008 at 4:39 pm

  Where is the evidence that MS paid Square Enix for it? The way i see it Square Enix needed the revenue and it’s not supprising that their shares rose considerablly on the announcement.
  In any case i now feel dumber for having read this fanboy article and will have to go and watch something more intellectual to balance things out, the Simpsons will probably do.

• 61 tom // Jul 26, 2008 at 10:25 pm

  hey people remember that &aptop hard drives workon ps3 sony tells u how to easily install them.. so while 360 fanboys yap about how they can buy a new hard drive remember this.. for less money ps3 owners can get a 500 gigg hard drive that bolts right on.. I own all 3 systems and can tell u that gaysoft nicle and dimes u for everything… $50 for live while sonys is free and though not quite as good online, its catching up…. hard drive has to be exlusive overprised 360 garbage… u can use any for the ps3.. sony has the clear advantage

• 62 Ramble // Jul 27, 2008 at 5:37 pm

  tom, your not helping the PS3 out…at all. Most of us have to decipher what you are even trying to say. I’m not normally nit-picky about spelling/grammar, but that’s just ridiculous.

  As far as the online service: free vs. $50/yr.

  You get what you pay for.

  I’m not sure any of us xbox subscribers even pay that. I paid $38 for 13 months. (there are specials all over the place).

  As a PS3 owner…yeah, I’d pay $38 for 13 months if they’d put into their online infrastructure. R&D - I support the online cause. xbl hasn’t disspointed…excepted with no spring update…but, it looks like the Fall update will make up for it.

  The 360 HD is Waaaaay overpriced…and I think their reasoning behind “why” is bogus.

  But, no - your post doesn’t justify a “clear advantage” in any way.

• 63 Snooby // Jul 27, 2008 at 5:43 pm

  IMHO - the Wii is the most expansive unit to date, when all is said and done with four controllers and nunchuts and no HDD that damn little box cost me more to play. And now they want me to buy four more motion sensor upgrade untis for each controller. Gods knows how much that will cost

• 64 Knight // Jul 28, 2008 at 5:00 am

  @Ramble - YOU ARE SUCH A DUMBF*** seriously, it’s obvious you’re a 360 fanboy and one ignorant bastard, you’re the one who’s filling this board with your non-sense. Everything I have said has been accurate. I own both systems as I already mention before. So tell me this, if 360 graphics is up to par with PS3, then why aren’t there any quality 1080p games??? Games on the 360 are already struggling in 720p. MANY developers have already said the PS3 is more powerful then the 360 regardless your bullsh** spec sheet. The cell is what’s going to drive the graphics better then the 360.

  Let me guess, I bet you were one of those morons who supported HD-DVD and spread all the FUD about Blu-ray, made lies about spielberg’s movie coming out on HD-DVD, claiming HD-DVD is superior then BD… LOL

  You’re just defensive like the rest of the 360 fanboys because you’re worried your crapbox is going to be in 3rd place AGAIN this generation so you go to every forum you can find to convince people to buy a 360 just so your crapbox can stay alive. Unfortunately I do own a crapbox but I’m beginning to regret for ever buying one.

• 65 stoltobot // Jul 28, 2008 at 7:33 am

  were you drunk when writing this article? it would be a good idea for you to get mummy or another adult to proof read your articles before you publish them, as a lot of this makes no sense.

• 66 Brains // Jul 28, 2008 at 10:30 am

  i seriously dont understand what everyone’s shittin there pants about, but all I want to say is its ok 360 owners, shout and scream as much as you want to while you still can, because pretty soon your console will be swept under a rug with sony devloping blu ray games (MGS4) with 1080p graphics and developers will forget about your shitbox

• 67 Ramble // Jul 28, 2008 at 2:23 pm

  KNIGHT: go home little boy…your playing with the big boys now.

  I’m a 15 year Software Engineering professional. You may be able to BS others (and yourself) with misinformation, but with me - you haven’t a leg to stand on.

  You’re probably just some kind of low tech - college drop out that thinks he’s made something of himself riding on the PS3 specs…I know your type. You’re a first class loser.

  Now listen, dumb ass…because I only going to say this once. (and I’ll say it sloooow so you can keep up)

  You PS3 fanbois (KNIGHT = PS3 FANBOY), just DON’T get it…

  You’ve bought into Sony’s hype…into their “superior machine” marketing sham. You’ve BELIEVED the lies…and now you’re living the lie. The Cell processor will number crunch like it’s nobody’s business. Although this increases the through-put of the graphics card capabilites, it DOES NOT make the PS3 a significantly better graphics machine. Funny you guys would even bring up 1080p. Even GTA - on of the latest and greatest - the 360 runs at a higher resolution than the PS3.

  You are COCKY and ARROGANT just like the company in which you are supporting. You have no class…a pawn - Get a life.

  The REALITY is this: blu-ray does VERY LITTLE to make the PS3 the game machine that KNIGHT dreams about…think about it. MOST (98%+) of the developers have been taking the MS 360 route. They will make games fit on a singe DVD due to the 360’s limitation…and devs are following the 360’s lead.

  Developers DON’T WANT to spend the extra development time to fill the blu-ray disc with content…KNIGHT - you know NOTHING about the real world. IT’S TOO EXPENSIVE!!!

  Poor, poor Knight. You’ve gotten your ASS kicked so many times on this little blog, yet you still come around for more.

  So, this is a reiterated post…for the RETARDS like you that don’t READ the first time around.

  …waiting for yet another overblown dramatic/emotional response

• 68 Snooby // Jul 28, 2008 at 3:55 pm

  Ramble…nice

  Knight, don’t get so frustrated. I am speaking from experience here as well bud.

  I have close ties to a game developer here in Canada and from working closely with them on their next release I can say from my experience that Ramble is pretty accurate in his assumption.

  Now you mention 1080p, which is quite funny if you ask me because a very large part of the market is still running the 360 and the Ps3 on regualr TV sets…still. So believe me when I tell you, It is not a huge point for developers to create games at 1080p when time and resources can be used for story lines and gameplay.

• 69 Snooby // Jul 28, 2008 at 4:03 pm

  Knight..how old are you?? You write like a basement dewelling frustrated 13 year old boy.

  Do you seriously have to cuss so much to make a point? It is distracting and it makes you look a bit…uneducated.

  Again, I stress the Cell is not powering the GPU on the PS3, they are using a Nvidia GPU.

• 70 Knight // Jul 28, 2008 at 6:57 pm

  @Ramtard
  “Get a life” LMFAO look who’s talking, you pretty much replied to every post in this forum. I bet you’re one of those LOSER who goes to every forum you can find to convince people to buy a 360, YOU are the reason why I feel ashame of ever owning a 360, when I first bought it, I loved it, I played Dead or Alive 3 like crazy, I enjoyed Dead Rising, Fuzion Frenzy 2 is great party game regardless the bad reviews from critics but as soon as I got my PS3, I just feel that the graphics and games are better, I feel that 360 fanboys like yourself are forceful, manipulative, cocky and arrogant. You guys are the bullies in the gaming industry. So if you’re unhappy that I called you a dumbf***, too bad.

  @Snooby
  Sorry for sounding harsh, I just didn’t like how Ramtard came to this forum and start insulting people and acts like a smart ass… You got a good point about lack of 1080p games. I still think 360 will have a hard time producing games in that resolution compare to the PS3 though.

• 71 Ramble // Jul 28, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  Once again - Knight can’t bring *anything* substantial to the table. Such a predictable response.

  “…waiting for yet another overblown dramatic/emotional response”

  Well, Knight - ya didn’t dissappoint!

  …and: Why would I be “unhappy” about your childish comments? …it reflects on you, not me.

• 72 yzzlthtz // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:36 am

  uh….i think we should wait until the games come out to talk about this kind of thing.

• 73 Mornelithe // Jul 29, 2008 at 3:30 pm

  No kiddin’, fanboy fodder articles left and right these days. Anyway, going with the OP’s intended subject…I would say yes…if you’re a fan of FF and want FFXIII versus…you’re going to have to buy a PS3. If you don’t really care…then Xbox should be just fine…

  Morne

• 74 jim // Aug 4, 2008 at 11:28 pm

  This game won’t sell on the 360, at least not in the states. It’s not violent enough, way too feminine, and turn based games don’t do well on the 360 as a rule, even though there is more on the 360 than the PS3.

• 75 kirin777 // Aug 6, 2008 at 5:29 am

  HAHAHAAAHAH SHITBOX FANBOYS SO STUUUUUUPID.

• 76 FF Fan // Aug 6, 2008 at 8:37 pm

  As a PS3 owner and fan, this site kinda sucks - more color is needed please!

  BTW, whats an RROD? I have no idea what that is… =/

• 77 Face // Aug 7, 2008 at 8:38 pm

  You sir who wrote this, are an idiot. LOL, what a duffle bag. I have both systems and I think I would still buy it on the 360 just because you wrote this dumba$$ article. As a matter of fact I will.

• 78 Scott Bowen // Aug 8, 2008 at 5:21 pm

  Dear face, hope your days with the a-team where fun, but now you should retire since it it painfully obvious you have dementia.

  Just to bring you up to speed this article refers to FF Versus which you will not be able to buy for your Xbox which is a great system but not if you want to play FF versus. So I guess your a duffel bag, what ever that means?

• 79 FF Fan // Aug 8, 2008 at 6:37 pm

  ^^

  P-P-P-P-P-PWNED!!!!!!

  XD

• 80 Ramble // Aug 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm

  Dear Scott Bowen

  You, like many of the PS3 fanbois, have made an assumtion. Please, be reminded that the word “assume” has double meaning:

  You have made an ASS out of U and ME

  Fortunately, I won’t participate in the “me” part, and I’ll give this this title completely to you.

  Versus for PS3 is exclusive, just as the infamous FFXIII, Devil May Cry 4…and countless others.

  If SE sees $$, then Versus will be coming to the 360.

  My guess: Versus will be coming to the 360…but it will be time exclusive.

  FFXIII announcement *really* hurt the sale of the PS3. If Versus got announced at the same time…that would be bad.

  So, expect Versus to be announced for the 360 soon after Versus for the PS3 is released.

  This chart reflects the impact on the PS3 sales after FFXIII was announced for the 360.

  http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=XB&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39642&end=39663

• 81 Scott Bowen // Aug 13, 2008 at 6:16 pm

  Sorry Ramble as of now I am not assuming anything. Versus is PS3 exclusive. Will it stay that way, most likely not just as Bioshock which was Xbox exclusive.
  And don’t call me a fan boy as I loved my 360 and see no reason why any one would bash it. (Minus the reason mine is dead)
  So you are trying to start a flame war? Or just bored? Either way I believe you where trying to be witty or facetious or something and I am sorry but the more I try to read your post the more I realize your just trying to stir the pot. A piece of advice don’t tell someone their assuming and then go on to say you are guessing. Here to quote you “My guess: Versus will be coming to the 360…but it will be time exclusive.”Oh you Ramble so silly

  Let me quote myself in post 33 it is my view on multi plat games
  “Now to the question. All games should be multi plat so the developers can recoup some of the staggering losses.” Sbowen

• 82 Ramble // Aug 14, 2008 at 4:11 pm

  Scott

  I reply to dumb asses.

  You reply to the simpletons like “FACE”. It was a simply little comment directed to the author…which suggests that you want some more activity on this blog.

  My “offensive” remarks are RESPONSES to dumb asses.

  The difference between “My guess”, and YOUR assumption?

  I make it CLEAR that it is a guess…an educated guess.

  You, never make it clear…infact…you STATE it as if it is a fact.

  You spread misinformation…hence: ps3 fanboi

  If you want to have a calm, rational conversation…I’m game.

  If you want to spread misinformation, beat down, belittle and cuss…I’ll be there to put you in your place.

  All games should be multi-platform? Maybe…maybe not. Are you the author of this article too?

  http://www.ps3daily.co.uk/20080806/why-sony-microsoft-and-nintendo-should-make-ultimate-console/

  …sure falls in line with that kind of thinking. (not very popular, based on the comments that article received either)

• 83 Scott Bowen // Aug 14, 2008 at 8:05 pm

  “You, never make it clear…infact…you STATE it as if it is a fact.”

  As of now it is a fact, hence the article and SE press conference. I never once said it wouldn’t change but as of now….

  “You spread misinformation…hence: ps3 fanboy”

  See above statement

  “If you want to have a calm, rational conversation…I’m game.

  If you want to spread misinformation, beat down, belittle and cuss…I’ll be there to put you in your place.”

  I find it hard to believe you are like this in real life. So internet tough guy your empty threats are amusing but not very terrifying.

  And what is with the link? I love console competition and I have enjoyed all three of the consoles. But I still believe games should be multi plat. It would help developers get more money return which would get bigger budgets for new games.
  I digress.

  Back to the usual tough talk. You sir are an ignant moran whom given the chance would most likely Darwin him/herself if you left you computer bench (which will most likely be soon with school getting back). Lulz !!11!!! HARHAR

  Ok so I await your strikingly brilliant response in 5…4…3…2…

• 84 Ramble // Aug 14, 2008 at 8:22 pm

  Ready to be put in your place?

  It’s spelled moron.

  You moron.

  Nothing brilliant about that…it’s just not being a dumb ass like you.

  ’nuff said.

• 85 yzzlthtz // Aug 14, 2008 at 8:29 pm

  Man, Ramble. Do you get paid to be such a dick, because it seems like that’s all you do all day.

• 86 Ramble // Aug 14, 2008 at 8:57 pm

  yzzlthtz

  You see what you want to see.

  I see one person behind multiple name aliases pretending to be multiple people.

  I see an author that’s sole intention was to create articles with as much “flaming” as possible.

  I see ignorant people spatting ignorant statements as truths without any reprocussions.

  I see these same people getting too upset about something that is ultimately meaningless…and everyone taking it too seriously.

  …wonder if I’ll be “quoted” multiple times again.

• 87 Scott Bowen // Aug 14, 2008 at 8:58 pm

  I also spelled ignorant wrong as well, I thought that would be more your speed

• 88 Ramble // Aug 14, 2008 at 9:04 pm

  Oh…don’t worry. It didn’t go unnoticed!

  *lol*

• 89 Scott Bowen // Aug 14, 2008 at 9:29 pm

  Hah anyways, good times I have to actually work now.

  You guys have a good day.

  “…wonder if I’ll be “quoted” multiple times again.”
  Just once more.

• 90 C.Mountain Games // Aug 14, 2008 at 10:26 pm

  Not sure how I came across this silly and biased attempt at an article, but….

  I’ve worked on titles for both consoles (still have to yet work on the Wii), even though I am noww with a new company working on a PC MMORPG.

  The PS3 has some serious design flaws. Here is 100% fact. The actaull fill rate and Pixelshader abilites are much higher on the 360. The memory design of the PS3 is a major issue. Now sure, we acan now offset it some XDM core shifting used, however it is very slow. The 360 not only allows developers to shift memory on the fly where it is needed (much faster then the PS3 and per scene), but the OS overhead s lower. Sony will never have the Xbox live interface, we need as much ram as we can get on the PS3, and hey had to reduce the OS usuage as it is.

  Another issue. Audio encoding. THere is no dedicated audio processor what so ever. You have that on the 360, it actually has it’s own cache for it. The SPEs must handle the audio decoding, and memory then it should take, is used up for that.

  What happens as a result of the design, is develpers need to make textures smaller, and not use as heavy effects. Sony claimed 1080p gaming. Yet you want see detailed games ever in 1080p. There are titles for the 360 in 1080p (native not jsut upscaled) and that was done before the PS3 launched. (1080p really isn’t good for either right now).

  Blu-Ray is great for storage, however not for data loading, that is why you must use the PS3 Hard Drive. You will see alot of the save ahead delays in games. DVD9 actually loads data much faster, even though storage is less. However the Xbox 360 also has better support for fast data decompression. With the added support of Play from Drive, savign your gams to the 360 means the fastest posible load times (Fall 2008).

  I have been following FFXIII, I even talked to the developers (which isn’t easy). Now I need to make this clear to people. Games are not developed on the consoles. We use workstations then optimize to run on consoles with the tools. This includes the Chrystal Tools (white engine enhancement) which is actually well made. However White Engine was first shown at a much earlier E3 prior to the PS3 launch, running an Xbox 360 demo (not any game).

  SE even has commented about the PS3 memory and stated they can reduce textures slightly on FFXII to adress the PS3’s memory. This is common practice today.

  From most developers views. The 360 has 3 key design features goign for it. It is easy to create for the PS3 first then move it to the 360, but not from a 360 perspective to the PS3. THe PS3 does lead to delays in developement time, even no not really extreme.

• 91 resolved // Aug 15, 2008 at 1:30 am

  Stats, ps3 & 360 have the same fill rate, & the same level of pixel shaders, so ur argument is busted & I can’t trust a word. Offsetting the memory is no biggy when u have a processor that can handle more processes at the same rate as the 360. Very little difference between either system. As for blu-ray, well i’m not happy with ppl talkin it down, it’s just 4 movies or it has’nt as fast a load time, one question to ask urself wot is blu-ray? Now 1st off I’ll take on compression, this is wot developers use to squeeze alot of info on2 a disc, now this is an advantage if u want 2 put alot on 1 disc, but it starts 2 fall down on load times cus ur forgetting the disc now has the same data only compressed ie it still has to read that data. Blu ray is not just a disc but it’s also taking in the 405nm blu laser which it takes it’s name from is a faster reading laser, this is way the ps3 need no compression. Now the installs that occur with the ps3 r not a problem for most ppl & will eventually have 2 b taken on board with the 360 if it is going 2 keep pace with the ps3 development without a whole new console. lets look at a special trend i like to bring in, lets look at the retro gaming era when games took nowhere near what they did 2day, hence y dvd made a step in2 the market. now dvd’s r clearly starting 2 struggle with the load, that a dvd is’nt enough without high compression rates! blu-ray takes this away, sony have put the ps3 as a 10 year system remember & this falls right in2 that 10 years, if we want bigger games then we have to acept the fact that more storage is goin 2 b required. I’d advise reading the actual specs of the consoles, cus ur contradicting ps3 developers, who seem 2 have few problems when developing games of a high standard, sth that is lacking on the 360 & for those who claim the proof is the time it takes to produce a ps3 title then can i introduce you 2 a title called “Alan Wake” any1 want 2 guess how long the development of this exclusive 360 title has taken? My point bein if u want sth gd u got to put the work in, I to have friends who r developers & yes the ps3 is slightly more difficult to develop for but the ps2 is harder to develop for than the psone & so on, the harder it is the better it turns out & this has been proven time & time again. Power is key & the ps3 has a ton of it. The PS3 is becoming lead console 4 alot of developers this is’nt because it’s just easier, it’s simply because the architecture is better & can therefore provide a smoother transition to the 360 when it’s ported. You cud also be the perfect person to tell me all about the updated software sony have made free to all developers to aid the process?

• 92 Ramble // Aug 15, 2008 at 5:57 am

  How’s Stargate coming along anyway…

  I’m still pissed that

  Stargate SG-1: The Alliance

  …was cancelled.

• 93 Ramble // Aug 15, 2008 at 5:58 pm

  resolved

  As many ignorant statements I’ve read, blog after blog…I still think that most people reading this is smarter than you’re giving them credit. And I think that C.Mountain Games is much smarter than you are.

  But, let’s go in a more simplistic approach.

  -=-=Back to Computer Basics 101=-=-

  Senario:

  You buy a kickass computer to play games.
  A few years pass…and the computer isn’t much good anymore for the latest games.

  So, you buy a computer 10X faster…but, you KEEP the graphics card from your old computer.

  The new games STILL won’t run nice.

  The bottleneck is in the graphics card. It doesn’t matter if you buy a computer that is 1000X faster, if you still have a graphics cards that is “last” generation - it will only perform marginally better.

  Likewise, if you upgrade that “old” computer with a massive HIGH END graphics card, the newest games will still only run marginally better.

  There has to be a balance between the CPU and the video card rendering the gameplay.

  The 360 has a better graphics card and more usable RAM.

  The PS3 has awesome processing power.

  But the PS3 will always have the graphics card and it’s RAM as a bottleneck.

  The 360 is a more balanced machine.

  In the end…the machines are well matched - and will perform reasonably close.

  THE ILLUSION:

  The PS3 has a blu-ray player. This allows developers to created Hi-def blu-ray pre-rendered CGI content. This has little to do with the CPU or the VIDEO card. It’s the ability for the PS3 to serve up a blu-ray “type” movie in the middle of gameplay (a cutscene).

• 94 yzzlthtz // Aug 15, 2008 at 8:23 pm

  Alright so…
  iD has recently stated that the blu-ray will allow them to use higher definition textures on the ps3 than the xbox 360 unless the game spans at least 3 disks.

  The cel is said to be good for simulations. to me, this means more room for AI, collisions, physics, etc.

  Graphics do not make a game great. Good graphics might make a mediocre game a little better, but a crappy game is a crappy game, just like an awesome game is an awesome game, no matter what it looks like.
  That said,
  The two systems seem pretty evenly matched graphically. Nothing on the 360, however, has matched the graphical finesse and animation of exclusive PS3 titles Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune and Heavenly Sword. Say what you will about the games, but they are completely stunning.
  Cross-Platform games, so far, have felt a little weak in terms of game-space interactions and animations compared to ps3 exclusive. Naughty Dog told us that developers have utilized at most 40% of the ps3 cel power.

  SO….
  who knows what the future will bring. Who knows what exclusives will prove the mightiest.
  us ps3 die-hards have seen some magical things and are banking on a little untapped potential and Sony’s penchant for stirring up revolutionary games, the likes of which we really haven’t seen on either system in this generation yet (imho).

• 95 Ramble // Aug 15, 2008 at 9:29 pm

  yzzlthtz

  That’s right. Carmack is one of the more respected developers out there. Lost Odyssey for the 360 comes on 4 discs. I expect FFXIII to come on multiple discs as well. Ofcourse, MS announced that you can copy the entire game to your hard drive come fall, so (at least, in my case) disc changing isn’t going to be an issue.

  Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are both good examples.

  The graphics are excellent in these games…but to say they are “better” than DMC4 or Ninja Gaiden 2 or Bioshock would be subjective. You’d have to compare on sites that break down game ratings in categories (sound, graphics…etc) - like IGN reviews to “try” to get a feel for a more unbiases viewpoint.

  Personally, I liked DMC4 and Ninja Gaiden better than Heavenly Sword…but, each to his own.

  Don’t get me wrong…cutscenes can really put someone into the game, especially when you are talking about RPGs. But the actual ingame graphics will be limited to the PS3’s video card and RAM.

  Also, imo: you really need to read between the lines on what Carmack says. For every 1 thing he’s said promoting the PS3 over the 360, he’s said 10 things promoting the 360 over the PS3. Again, imo, he’s got himself in a little bit of a political struggle…as being too “360″ friendly.

  But, spanning a second disc wouldn’t be a problem for me. This puts the machines in prospective. It’s not the case where the 360 can’t texture map…it’s the texture mapping files that are sooo huge. (he has artists working with single textures over a gig!).

• 96 Ramble // Aug 15, 2008 at 10:14 pm

  yzzlthtz

  Ah…I was curious more about Carmack. The statement he made was much more than just “political”. He’s trying to get Microsoft from invoking a penalty fee for him using more than two discs…

  “Evidently royalty fees associated with a third disc would make the project financially unviable, so Carmack’s looking to Microsoft to bite the bullet and rescind the fee or suffer the consequences ”

  Basically, he’s saying - if you’re going to charge me extra for this, I’ll squeeze it on two discs using compression and scaled down textures.

• 97 yzzlthtz // Aug 16, 2008 at 8:04 pm

  Yes it’ll be interesting to see how this negotiation turns out…
  NG2 does seem awesome…i enjoyed HS more than DMC4 though. The sword collisions and moves felt more visceral and realistic.

  i wasn’t speaking of just cutscenes; in uncharted, the in-game animations and integration with dialog, plus the seamless transition to cutscenes that use the in-game engine, created a the most effective ‘i’m playing a movie’ level of immersion to date.
  all i’m saying is that the ps3 seems best suited to this level of immersion and we’ll see what’s coming….

• 98 Ramble // Aug 17, 2008 at 2:01 am

  yzzlthtz

  “all i’m saying is that the ps3 seems best suited to this level of immersion and we’ll see what’s coming….”

  No argument there! Unfortunately I fear that the develop cost for such scenes are too much of a factor, and unless you’re one of the BIG devs, you can’t come close to justifying the cost.

  You forgot to mention MGS4 as well. It’s also up there with the ones you’ve mentioned.

• 99 yzzlthtz // Aug 17, 2008 at 4:56 am

  Yes, I hear unfortunate things about the hits taken by the HS developers; whatever their next project is, it ain’t no HS2.

  MGS4 is a masterpiece, even though the extended plot is ridiculous (the basic plot is contrastingly very simple).

  hmm…
  The guarantee is that early exclusives will be large-production undertakings….
  …but…
  I’m guessing (hoping) as more dev tools are released and cost of blu-ray comes down, production costs will come within reach of more companies. it comes down to attatch rate, which, for the ps3, is not too shabby and is getting better…. Then of course there’s console sales, which is another ball of wax entirely…who knows what will appeal to consumers down the road.

  And then there’s downloadable network games, which are inexpensive to develop and easy to distribute… PSN has some choice download titles and has the advantage of no size restrictions; plus, every ps3 has a HD and free access to the network.

  Some of these download titles, current and coming, are the most exciting to me…

  To be fair, I think it’s a good time to be a developer on XBL or PSN, or both.

• 100 Ramble // Aug 17, 2008 at 3:52 pm

  I *really* do like the arcade options both systems have offered.

  On the PS3,

  http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchetandclankquestforbooty/index.html

  …really excited for that one. From the presentation, that game looks almost like a more “full production” game than just an arcade game.

  yzzlthtz, if you don’t have both systems…save up and get a 360 too. Get the best of both worlds. Rumor is, the 360 is dropping the arcade to $199.

  Contrary to what people think, you can have live FREE. MS has a “loop-hole”…that’s not advertised. Every console has the ability to create a free 30-day account.

  Just create another account when it expires.

  The down side of that is games associated with your gamertag will be the ones to get the “gamerscore”, and…each account has their own “friends” list…etc.

  But, live…multiplayer online…it’s always been free.

• 101 yzzlthtz // Aug 17, 2008 at 5:40 pm

  Teagm can’t wait for the new R&C…
  Fat Princess looks promising too.

  hah! it’s like re-installing trial software each month….and you don’t get caught?

  it’s tempting….but….

  probably no 360 for me for awhile; fable 2 is the only thing i’m really hankering to play that is exclusive to the system, and i’ll bet my shoes that’s coming to pc….
  Plus,
  I know people with the noisy green monster, so if I really need to get a 360 fix…;)

• 102 Ramble // Aug 17, 2008 at 11:51 pm

  Nah. I haven’t heard of any “crackdown” on people creating the new accounts. It’s a loop-hole that’s easy enough to shutdown…I think MS keeps it open for that reason.

  However, what I’d like to know:

  These “12 million” xbox live users MS claims…does that include the 7 accounts I’ve created for when friends want to come over and play on live?

  …point to ponder

• 103 yzzlthtz // Aug 19, 2008 at 1:21 am

  hmm….yes i am one of those 12 million if that’s the case! lol

• 104 fg // Aug 22, 2008 at 1:01 pm

  Both 360 & ps3 suck . they have conned so many into the “CRAP” loop , Just like Blu-ray useless shit nobody needs .

• 105 Dangthing // Oct 25, 2008 at 10:42 pm

  To all of you who “claim to have” all three consoles. I don’t believe you..I have one and I want only one. That is the Ps3. I wanted a PS3 before I had a Ps2. So shut up about having all three. No one believes you anymore. Trying to make yourself feel better is just a useless excuse for flaming.

• 106 The Guy // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:25 pm

  Dangthing….I do have all 3 and it’s because I am a real gamer and wanted them all.

  If you wanted a PS3 before you had a PS2 then you are just a drone.

• 107 Dangthing // Nov 2, 2008 at 3:00 am

  Perhaps but consider this saying I have all three and this one is better is like saying I drink Coke, Lemonade, and Water and I think Coke is the best of the three. Its and opinion and holds no weight.

  Also when your a kid you want a flying car before you had a regular car. Does that mean that the kid is also a drone? Also its not like I rushed out and purchased a Ps3 on the first day or even the first year and a half. I waited for it to be affordable. I wanted it but If I were truly a drone I would have bought it day one.

• 108 The Guy // Nov 3, 2008 at 6:58 pm

  Dangthing - No, you are a drone for admitting you wanted a PS3 without knowing what it was. That means you devotedly trust what ever Sony throws in your lap, that is being a drone.

• 109 Yzzlthtz // Nov 3, 2008 at 10:28 pm

  hmm, i don’t think brand loyalty is equivalent to being a drone.
  i bought a ps3 because i had some of the best and most unique gaming experiences with my ps2.
  i’m counting on sony to keep the innovations coming.
  the ps3, like the ps2, was slow to start, but is bit by bit delivering on every promise made, and provides, as i anticipated, some of the most unique and fun gaming i’ve had.
  the wii, while a market juggernaut, is a gaming failure, bringing us hand wagging in place of button presses.
  the 360, an undeniably excellent piece of gaming hardware with robust online features, has already reached its technological potential with its games, and brings considerably less innovation to the table table with its exclusive titles. the best 360 games are just amped up versions of existing games.
  the most innovative titles are on xbox live.

• 110 The Guy // Nov 4, 2008 at 3:52 pm

  First off, the 360 hasn’t reached it’s full potential yet either. Gears of War 2 is already proving that.

  Some of the best innovation has come from 360 games.

  Yes Halo 3 actually made some huge leaps for console gaming. The video and file sharing system of Halo 3 hasn’t been seen in a console game before and it’s just insane what you can do with it.

  Halo Wars is the first RTS game dedicated to a console by a credible studio.

  Mass Effect brought us an original and successful RPG from the West.

  XNA studios lets users create their own games from the ground up and sell them on Xbox Live.

  The game show channel coming to Live has never been done before. Playing deal or no deal with thousands of people online for real money and prizes ?

  The 360 is evolving every day, it has far from peaked.

• 111 Yzzlthtz // Nov 4, 2008 at 5:25 pm

  I never saw Gears as a particularly stunning piece, but I understand the excitement. It is truly fun to play, and it looks great, but, for me, it’s nothing more than a good shooter.

  The forge system in Halo 3 has been seen on pc games. I agree that it’s a leap forwards for consoles, but not for gaming.

  Halo Wars is certainly not the first console RTS by a long shot.

  Mass Effect is a more polished KOTOR without lightsabers.

  XNA is a cool thing, and it’s great that indy developers can get on their feet with XBL, and, to the end user, it does mean a fun mixed bag of gaming.

  Gambling online…i’ll pass, but it sounds fun enough.

  I get that Microsoft is pushing the 360, but not in directions I’m particularly interested in, and not in ways that represent serious innovations in gaming. The technology is not made for much more than has been done with it already, in terms of physics, detain and AI. The best thing about the 360, for me, is the Live connectivity and communication options and the wide variety of games available through the marketplace.

  Ultimately, I look at the direction of the sony console, what they’ve given us and what they’re promising, and it’s more what I want from a system.

• 112 The Guy // Nov 4, 2008 at 6:20 pm

  Dude I never said a thing about FORGE. I was talking about recording and creating your own videos from any game you played and sharing them. Sharing your own maps or game variants and so on. You need to read up on the Bungie File Share. You don’t need youtube or capture cards anymore, you can share your highlights or watch others right in the game. You just have to play with it , it’s never ending fun.

  Now EA and Epic are adding features like that as well.

  Halo Wars is the very first RTS being developed solely for a console from the ground up, not from PC to console.

  Mass Effect is alot different then KOTOR. I played both devotedly.

• 113 Yzzlthtz // Nov 4, 2008 at 9:45 pm

  Halo wars is definitely not the only rts made only for console. I can think of 2 off the top of my head. But it does look like one of the better rts’.

  The video sharing in Halo 3 IS cool. But it’s still Halo 3, take it or leave it. You did allude to forge, I believe.

  I didn’t care for Mass Effect - i tried it on PC and was bored. It takes quite an RPG for me to be into it, and the watered down shooter game-play just wasn’t my thing. I need light sabers and force powers to make that game-play style work for me.

• 114 Dangthing // Nov 8, 2008 at 4:28 am

  Compactly this is an endless war that neither side will win unless Sony of Microsoft die for no apparent reason. That said.

  You can say that the Xbox 360 is an advanced piece of equipment and has better games and online than the Ps3 so far…this is an acceptable argument and is for the most part true. Saying that it is changing gaming history is not. It did its role in changing history, it brought HDD, high definition, and acceptable gaming to the market.

  Things done by games doesn’t count because there is a 99% chance that when put on a tech equivalent the same programmers could easily have done the same thing. You could say Halo changed gaming but not Xbox 360 changed gaming through Halo.

  The Xbox 360 is getting old however, this can’t be denied. A processor can only do so much and the disk space is running out quick. Innovative programming and intelligent minds at gaming studios is all that allows it to continue on. I would say that it may get 2-3 brilliant games after Gears 2. Maybe a dozen or two ok games. And like all consoles a bunch of flops.

  The Ps3 is unbelievably hard to program for just as the Xbox 360 was at first but even harder still. According to actual specs if it was set up right it could probably play 3 games at once on multiple screens. Its so hard to program for however that so far the games have been ok to great. Nothing super brilliant, however Resistance 2 that I just picked up is spectacular. Even it has bugs and problems.

  Fact as it is…Ps3 is hardware superior to all other gaming machines on the market.

  Xbox 360 is online and hardcore leader to all gaming machines on the market right now.

  The Wii is the casual gaming phenomenon of the market.

  Hardware is set, online and games can be changed.

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